I have read your article and though powerful, the comparison you made still a far from the truth. It is hard to believe you are interested in a "dialogue". You want to help and end the violence? Call for an end of hamas, hezbollah and all other groups that wish to end the Jewish nation, like the Nazis did in the Second WW. Now there is a comparison to be made. As for the Palestinian people, can you name a president or leader before Arafat? Can you please tell me what was the capital of "Palestine" before the creation of the state of Israel? These questions I raise to you serve the purpose to question the very existence of "the Palestinian people". They might be Caaninites, Moabites, Hittitiets.... If you are talking about the Philistines, then maybe you have a better argument, and if so they come from modern Greece. Should you go to palaestinehistory.com you will see that the history timeline goes back to 1900 CE?? and what happened in the region before?? Here is an attempt to illustrate my point. Early Canaanite Period (Early Bronze Age) 3300–2300 BCE Middle Canaanite Period (Middle Bronze Age) 2300-1550 BCE Monarchy Period (Iron Age II) 1000–586 BCE Monarchy of Judah and Edom/Neo-Assyrian Period (Iron Age IIC) 722–586 BCE Neo-Babylonian Period (Iron Age III) 586–539 BCE Persian Period 539-333 BCE Hellenistic Period 333–165 BCE Maccabean/Hasmonean Period 165–63 BCE Early Roman Period 63 BCE–70 CE Late Roman Period I 70–135 CE Late Roman Period II 135–220 CE Late Roman Period III 220–330 CE Byzantine Period 330–638 CE Arab Caliphate Period 638–1099 CE Umayyad Period 638–750 CE Period of Abbasids, Tulunids, Ikshidids, Fatimids, Seljuks 750–1099 CE Crusader Period 1099–1244 Kingdom of Jerusalem 1099–1187 Ayyubid Period 1187–1244 Mamluk Period 1244–1517 Ottoman Period 1517-1917 British Mandate 1917–1948 State of Israel: 1948 to present "The Philistines (Hebrew פְלִשְׁתִּים, p'lishtim, lit. "invaders") (see "other uses" below) were a peoplewho occupied the southern coast of Canaan, their territory being named Philistia in later contexts. Their origin has been debated among scholars. There is not enough information of the original language of the Philistines to relate it securely to any other languages, although possible relations toIndo-European languages support the theory that immigrant Philistines originated among "sea peoples". Modern archaeology has also suggested early cultural links with the Mycenean world in mainlandGreece.[1] Though the Philistines adopted local Canaanite culture and language before leaving any written texts (and later adopted Aramaic language), an Indo-European origin has been suggested for a handful of known Philistine words that survived as loan words in Hebrew." The Philistines lost their independence to Tiglath-Pileser III of Assyria by 732 BC, and revolts in following years were all crushed. Later, Nebuchadrezzar II of Babylon eventually conquered all of Syria and the Kingdom of Judah, and the former Philistine cities became part of the Neo-Babylonian Empire. There are few references to the Philistines after this time period. However, Ezekiel 25:16, Zechariah 9:6, and I Macabees 3 make mention of the Philistines, indicating that they still existed as a people in some capacity after the Babylonian invasion. Eventually all traces of the Philistines as a people or ethnic group disappear. Subsequently the cities were under the control of Persians, Jews (Hasmonean Kingdom), Greeks (Seleucid Empire),Romans, and subsequent empires. The name "Palestine" comes, via Greek and Latin, from the Philistines; see History of Palestine. Most authorities agree that the Philistines are not autochthonous to the regions of Israel/Palestine which theBible describes them inhabiting. The Bible contains roughly 250 references to the Philistines or Philistia, and repeatedly refers to them as "uncircumcised", just like the Semitic peoples, such as Canaanites, which the Bible relates encountered the Israelites following the Exodus. (See, e.g., 1 Samuel 17:26-36, 2 Samuel 1:20, Judges 14:3) It has been suggested that the Philistines formed part of the great naval confederacy, the "Sea Peoples," who had wandered, at the beginning of the 12th century BC, from their homeland in Crete and the Aegean islandsto the shores of the Mediterranean and repeatedly attacked Egypt during the later Nineteenth Dynasty. Though they were eventually repulsed by Ramesses III, he finally resettled them, according to the theory, to rebuild the coastal towns in Canaan. There is some limited evidence in favor of the assumption that the Philistines did originally speak some Indo-European language. A number of Philistine-related words found in the Bible are not Semitic, and can in some cases, with reservations, be traced back to Proto-Indo-European roots. For example, the Philistine word for captain, seren, may be related to the Greek word tyrannos (which, however, has not been traced to a PIE root). Some of the Philistine names, such as Goliath, Achish, and Phicol, appear to be of non-Semitic origin, and Indo-European etymologies have been suggested. Recently, an inscription dating to the late 10th/early 9th centuries BC with two names, very similar to one of the suggested etymologies of the popular Philistine name Goliath (Lydian Alyattes, or perhaps Greek Kalliades) was found in the excavations at Gath. The appearance of additional non-Semitic names in Philistine inscriptions from later stages of the Iron Age is an additional indication of the non-Semitic origins of this group. British writers of the 19th century and very early 20th century sometimes referred to the Arabs of Palestine as "Philistines". This was apparently not due to a belief in a strong connection with the ancient Philistines, but merely reflects the former convention that "Philistine" simply denotes "native of Palestine." The Arabic word for Palestine, فلسطين‎, transliterated "Falasṭīn," derives from the Latin term Palaestina. After the Bar-Kokhba revolt of the Judeans and the subsequent Roman repression and exile, the Romans renamed the entire district of Judea "Palaestina". One interpretation is that this was a mark of insult[citation needed] to their defeated enemies, which was due to the Romans' knowledge of the region's history and the fact that the Philistines and the Israelites were warring peoples. Another version, however, holds that the Romans - coming from the Mediterranean and finding "Pleshet" or "Plishtia" as the established name of the coastal region, tended to extend this name further inland (much as the Jews themselves extended the name the Ionians, the Greeks living nearest to them, making it the name of all Greeks ("Yevanim" יוונים) is the Hebrew word for Greeks up to the present). Discussion of these two theories sometimes moves out of the purely historical, tending to be coloured by one's position with regard to the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict. David Bercovici-Artieda Vancouver-Canada — David Bercovici-Artieda

Why we never heard of occupation under Egyptian and Jordanian rule? Then why should the Israelis let anyone who wants "to throw them in the ocean" into their country?But the palestinians want to work in israel,get medical help in israel,education in israel.What are their rich brothers doing for them? Please somebody tell me what the Saudis,Koweitis,and all those countries around the gulf do for the palestinians? The israelis are not the enemies. — Anonymous

Palestinians and Israelies will one day reach a solution, but that time is being delayed by such distorted and inflammatory reporting. A publication such as Adbusters could play a useful role in promoting a progressive solution to the conflict. Unfortunately they seem to have staff members with very strong biases. I won't be buying this magazine again until I see signs of more reliable journalism. — rpo3bs

Anyone notice that Gaza, the world's most prolific terrorist/welfare state, complains about shortages of food and medicine, but they always have money to procure guns, terror missiles (with no military value; only terror value), and bombs? Their priorities are well-established. They have made their own purgatory, and now they complain about having to live in it. — Gary Katz

Mr. Mohammed’s Never Again turns out to be the same old same old. Let me provide readers with the glaring ironies: The Palestinian’s new game is to show the Israelis in the ROLE…of...Nazis. It is an interesting twist on history. Next, see Yasser Arafat’s uncle in 1941 meeting with his hero, Adolph Hitler, to offer his services to build concentration camps in the Mandated Territories in an act of friendly cooperation with Hitler’s agenda: 1. http://www.psywar.org/psywar/images/stamps_mufti.jpg 2. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_utj_WiTT3tU/Sd8_MBuL5uI/AAAAAAAABJg/T-zCV431x5c/s1600-h/Grand_Mufti_Nazis_group_photo.jpg 3. http://jimball.com.au/Features/Mufti-Nazi.jpg November 2, 1943, Himmler's telegram to the Mufti: 'To the Grand Mufti: The National Socialist movement of Greater Germany has, since its inception, inscribed upon its flag the fight against the world Jewry. It has therefore followed with particular sympathy the struggle of freedom-loving Arabs, especially in Palestine, against Jewish interlopers. In the recognition of this enemy and of the common struggle against it lies the firm foundation of the natural alliance that exists between the National Socialist Greater Germany and the freedom-loving Muslims of the whole world. In this spirit I am sending you on the anniversary of the infamous Balfour declaration my hearty greetings and wishes for the successful pursuit of your struggle until the final victory.' Reichsfuehrer S.S. Heinrich Himmler Note the two words: “natural alliance”…. I would be interested in light of these revelations, which people, the Israelis or the Palestinian Arabs, who can be legitimately called Nazis? Regarding “The Occupation.” Note that of the contested portions of the Mandated Territories, The West Bank is contested, meaning it is not referred to as “occupied.” The language of the legal documents, including UNSC Resolutions 224 and 338 that govern the dispute, deliberately use the legal terminology “disputed.” The reason that the term “disputed” is used is because the land is, in fact, disputed and not OWNED by Palestinians. It is disputed because the Jews claim is not just for a religious tie to the land…but a historic tie that the Palestinian Arabs do not have and cannot make claim to. The issues regarding the West Bank and Gaza have not been settled, nor is there a consensus about their settlement. Noted is the fact that among dozens of Muslim nations, Jews cannot live, worship, intermarry, get an education, or exist. In Apartheid Israel which has about 1.5 million Arabs who are provided with more civil rights than their relatives get in the surrounding states, Arabs have served in parliament, are mayors of cities and towns, intermarry, can pray five times daily at hundreds of mosques throughout the nation, go to the school of their liking, and can travel freely. Do tell Mr. Mohammed, how does that compare to Nazi Germany, apartheid South Africa, or a Gaza ghetto? Mohammed says: “The Israeli government controls the movement of all goods, including food, in and out of the Gaza Strip. Next you can see the Egyptian side of Gaza. Note the size and scale of the fence. It is an Egyptian, not an Israel fence. Have any of you ever heard of the Egyptian fence to keep Palestinian terrorists out of Egypt? Here is the Palestinian website to tell you all about it: http://www.imemc.org/article/52570 The Egypt – Gaza Barrier: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ITWI9nTWaek/R5nR6c3w_TI/AAAAAAAAB3Y/Q3yLZWvObeo/s400/gaza_egypt_map.gif It may come as a surprise to detail history, REAL history based on events and facts, rather than Palestinian Myths, meaning fabrications and scripts, the facts of the dispute. For example: Before 1967 Gaza was occupied by Egypt. Before 1967 the West Bank was occupied by Jordan. Before 1967 the Syrian state and its leaders, as well as Arabs living in the West Bank, considered themselves Syrians. Southern Syrians. How come no Syrian, er, “Palestinian,” called for a Palestinian State then? Google: “Palestinian Myths.” Find out the REAL, as opposed to IMAGINED origins of the Palestinians. http://www.imninalu.net/myths-pals.htm And while you’re doing that, consider this FACT: There is no such thing as a Palestinian identity, a Palestinian people, a Palestinian culture, civilization, language, history, archeology, music, economy, or currency. There NEVER was such. In contrast, there has always been a continuous Hebraic civilization, language, history, archeology, culture, music, economy and currency for the most of 4000 years in the land we call Israel. Mohammed says: For the most part, the movement of Palestinians into Israel is strictly forbidden. I say. For the most part, the movement of Israelis or Jews into Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Egypt, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Kuwait, Somalia, Libya, etc, etc, is strictly forbidden. The Palestinians wanted Land for Peace. The Israelis gave it to them. In 2005 Israel removed its own citizens by force, and destroyed their homes so they could not return. Gaza, the Ghetto, thanked this incredible sacrifice in good will by firing over 7000 explosive missiles into Israel aimed to murder innocent Jews. Now the so-called “Palestinian” is asking Israel to sacrifice more, like giving up The West Bank. Land for Peace that is. The Israelis got “peace” for their sacrifice in Gaza. Do you think they should get more peace? Should not the Palestinian Arab look to their own Arab brothers for more land in the vastly empty Mideast considering Israel consists of 1/6th of one percent of the Mideast and that Israel is not just “a homeland” for the Jews…but Israel is their birthplace? And considering that Israel had to absorb one million Mideast Jews who were evicted by force from their homes in Arab countries where they had lived for tens of centuries? Jerusalem was the Israeli capital 3500 years ago. Islam was born 1400 years ago. Which people have more of a claim to that land? I’ll tell you which. The people who did not want to set up concentration camps and ovens in the Mandated Territories to murder their enemies. Andrew G. Benjamin agbenjamin@gmail.com — Andrew G. Benjamin

Until they stop, I can only wish for what Muslims pray for Israel and the Jewish people: That all Muslims visit the 72 virgins (and find that they are lesbians). — Anonymous

I live in Poland and I'm strongly disappointed with this comparition again. ... sorry but I won't explain You why ... — MichalP

1. The Jews in Warsaw never advocated the destruction of the Germans or anyone. 2. The Jews never fired rockets or engaged in any kind of terror against anyone. 3. The Jews of Warsaw were not fantastically well armed. 4.In 2000 years of exile, Jews never hid from their combatant foes amongst women and children during a fight. 5. The Jews in Warsaw loved their children more than they hated the people who were killing them. 7. The Arabs in Gaza live like virtually all other arabs, in fear of each other. 8. If Israel wanted to do the Gazans what the Germans wanted to do the Jews, there would be no more Gazans. 9. Unlike the Gazans the Jews of Warsaw did not have help and support from the rest of the world. 10. The prisoners taken by the IDF were well treated. HOW STUPID ARE PEOPLE. COME ON KNOCK IT OFF ALREADY. — Anonymous

Anti-semitism, even in the guise of "journalism," is never cute. — Anonymous

Dear Editor, I read the article in the May/June issue by Saeed David Mohammed, a concentrator in Middle Eastern Studies at NYU. It seems to me that Mr. Mohammed has a lot to learn about the situation in the Middle East, as his article is extremely one-sided. This type of article concerns me, because it has the potential to spread his biased view to people who are even less informed than Mr. Mohammed. As you know, the article draws a comparison between the situation in Gaza, and the Warsaw Ghetto. This comparison is simply not valid. There is no possible valid comparison possible between these two situations. A comparison like this denies and diminishes and exploits the Holocaust, does disrespect to Holocaust victims and survivors alike, misrepresents both the cruel reality of the Gaza Strip and the cruel reality of the ghetto, dismisses the humanity and the vulnerability of the million Israeli Jews and Arabs within rocket range, and ignores completely the role of Hamas, the Islamic Jihad, the Popular Resistance Committees, and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, in having sent thousands and thousands and thousands of rockets and mortars into Israel. In the Warsaw Ghetto, there was no Jewish organization that had ever sworn to destroy Germany and turn it into a Jewish state. No Jewish organization had ever fired thousands of rockets at German towns and cities. No Jewish organization had sent suicide bombers into Germany and slaughtered hundreds of Germans while they went about their lawful business. This is all in direct opposition to the situation in Gaza. Hamas is SWORN to Israel's destruction! Israel withdrew from Gaza. Now it is up to the Palestinians to renounce terror and to build their own country. They have the potential to do it, they NEED to do it for the sake of all those living in the region. However, the Palestinians also need to accept Israel, and then there will be a chance for peace with two peaceful states living side by side. Thanks for taking the time to read this. — Anonymous

SHocking! Your comparisons of warsaw to gaza are inherently flawed, and I fear that this article is aimed at convincing those that do not know any better to come to conclusions based on an essay that aims to convince people based on false information. It remains a pressing issue that regardless of tough times, a people can still be productive, however the Gaza leadership has taken it upon themselves to sabotage every option of creating GDP that was given to them. For instance the 10 million dollars worth of greenhouses given to them by the israeli government was not guarded by hamas leading to it being stripped to pieces. Why is this? maybe because hamas prefers disorder. In our context though it beings a clear signal that this is nothing like Warsaw, and the only similarity is that people are fighting people. I also realize that you forgot to mention that the hamas leadership are hiding behind women and children when they fight, and that both Egypt and Jordan block their borders to Gaza and Westbank but do allow a flow of weapons into these areas. The majority of medical aid comes from Israel. These facts alone lead me to wonder why I am even posting here, it is clear that you do not wish to present a true story but rather have other interests, because this essay is complete rubbish. Know that articles like this damage the Palestinian people ultimately and that you are responsible for this, because many are getting fed up because they do not actually know what is going on in these areas. You make me sick. — Anonymous

I would like to see one of those "long -range spears" from Hamasland on Calvin's house. — bernie nagler

The plural of anecdote is not data. We can stack horror on each side, but we end up either entrenched or numb. They pop up regularly, and they do not make one side Evil and the other side Right. Consider this from TNR: 'And here's the headline on a Jerusalem Post story by Khaled Abu Toameh: "Relatives of boy slain as 'collaborator' seek death penalty for family members who killed him." First, they tortured him to death. And then they strung him up in the family warehouse where his father had left him as some sort of "discipline." The father says he did not expect his own brother--the 15 year-old's uncle---to murder him. The uncle says that he had lost his temper. So what was Raed Sawalha's crime? He waved at an Israeli Border Police soldier driving by. Some say Raed was actually chatting with the soldier.' What I see in this tragedy is the result of hate vs hate. You contribute to hate with this factless, propagandistic Warsaw nonsense. — Greg Correll

Slovenly journalism, ultimately. Motivated by the same ultra-leftism that gave us Stalinist apologists. "Pure" leftism. God save us from True Believers. To Adbusters: The left of Rosa, Martin, and Ghandi does not include being doctrinaire about Israel. Such ideological choices blind you to the mess it all really is. My sympathies for wanting neat answers like "blame Israel", because it is so hard to endure the horror show over there, for decades. No one's hands are clean. But to embrace a simple-minded pro-Palestinian philosophy is to make a fundamental error. And worse, to align yourself with neo-nazis. Solving this is a whole lot harder than deciding one side is right. Human beings are complex. And tragic. Ultimately we get civil rights, an end to apartheid, peace in Ireland, but only when EVERYONE gets to remain human, which is boring, steady, patient, unromantic work. Becoming skeptical is necessary. You only think it diminishes you now because you are seduced by the Glamour of being Righteously Right. Stop advertising for the Arab cause and start doing the hard work of real journalism. To do less is to break our hearts, because Adbusters is uniquely good at some things. — Greg Correll

The Warsaw Ghetto analogy is fallcious, and undermines journalistic integrity. Here is one of many reasons: Palestinian factors have sworn to destroy Israel, teach hatred in schools, send their children as human suicide bombs, and reacted to the pullout of Gaza (a peace concession) with thousands of missiles and rockets. In contrast, Jews in Germany were a peaceful part of society. No Jewish organization ever undertook to destroy Germany and turn it into a Jewish state. No Jews had ever fired thousands of rockets at German towns. Jews did not send suicide bombers into Germany to slaughter hundreds of Germans while they went about their lawful business. The isolation of Palestinians in Gaza is a necessary result of their unrelenting violent campaign to kill as many Jews as possible without regard to the lives or livelihood of their own children. The creation of the Warsaw Ghetto was a step to Nazi extermination of a people who otherwise sought to live in peace and integration within German society. Displaying photos showing the bloody outcome of violent incidents at different points in history does not make your comparison logically, factually or historically accurate. This article is a lesson in intellectual dishonesty. — B. Schulman

genocide of the Palestinian people? Do you even know what the word genocide means? do you know that nearly ALL of the civilian deaths in Gaza occur because of Hamas’ documented policy of using women and children as human shields? do you know that in contravention to the most basic tenets of human decency they place missiles and missile launchers inside schools, that they hide among families and in hospitals in order specifically to generate the kinds of images and world “sympathy” that you, Ramon, are responding to? You are talking about a culture of martyrdom that literally believes the value of small children dying as martyrs is preferable to living? this doesn’t just occur in Gaza— it happens routinely in Iraq and Afghanistan and Pakistan where the militants ask mothers to walk into marketplaces holding the hands of small children who are outfitted with bomb belts. Please… do a LITTLE research instead of spouting the ridiculous rhetoric you pick up from people holding posters at rallies. — Anonymous

This is such garbage - I have lost complete respect for AdBusters. There's a very true statement that sums everything up: "If the Palestinians didn't have weapons, there would be peace. If Israel didn't have weapons, there would be no Israel." — Anonymous

Comparing Gaza to the Warsaw Ghetto is blatantly anti-Semitic. No matter - we know you're all out there, you've BEEN out there for over 2000 years - and we're still here. You can print all you like, it won't change a thing. Gaza will fester like a stinking sore until these people accept the reality of a permanent Jewish state. And I'm tired of fighting you Jew-haters - I'm already planning to move myself and family to the State of Israel next year. Tired of fighting anti-Semitism from outside Israel's borders when we can be far more effective fighting y'all from within. Meanwhile, let the blood flow in Gaza - to the Gazans, it's cheap - so why cry over it. — Chana M.

thumbs up to adbuster for coming up with this brave article... You guys might also be interested in the Palestinian BDS movement... http://www.bdsmovement.net/ It's gaining ground... and starting to bite: http://www.greenleft.org.au/2009/794/40892 — gilad

SOME QUOTES ON ISRAEL BY JEWS "If I was an Arab leader I would never make peace with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country." -David Ben Gurion, quoted in The Jewish Paradox, by Nahum Goldmann, Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1978, p. 99. "We must do everything to ensure they [the Palestinian refugees] never do return" --David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar's Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157. "A national home for the Jewish people is not equivalent to making Palestine into a Jewish State.." "nor can the erection of such a Jewish State be accomplished without the gravest trespass upon the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine." "the initial claim, often submitted by Zionists representatives, that they have a 'right' to Palestine, based on an occupation two thousand years ago, can hardly be seriously considered.' --Woodrow Wilson=s King-Crane Commission report "It's not as though there was a Palestinian people and we came and threw them out and took their country away from them. They did not exist." --Golda Meir 1969 "What is the difference between the way in which the Jewish people struggles to remain what it is in the midst of a non-Jewish population, and the way the Afrikaners try to stay what they are?" Henry Katzew, "South Africa: a Country Without Friends", Die Transvaler, quoted by R. Stevens in Zionism, South Africa and Apartheid. "The Palestinians are beasts walking on two legs." --Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, 'Begin and the "Beasts"', New Statesman, 25 June 1982 "in our political argument abroad, we minimize Arab opposition to us, but let us not ignore the truth among ourselves we are the aggressors and they defend themselves" --Ben Gurion 1938 "Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China, when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories." --Benyamin Netanyahu, then Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister, former Prime Minister of Israel, tells students at Bar Ilan University, From the Israeli journal Hotam, November 24, 1989. "We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moselem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai." -David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978. "...if people become accustomed to the large figure and we are actually obliged to accept the return of the refugees, we may find it difficult, when faced with hordes of claimants, to convince the world that not all of these formerly lived in Israeli territory. It would, in any event, seem desirable to minimize the numbers...than otherwise." --Israeli official Arthur Lourie in a letter to Walter Eytan, director general of the Israeli Foreign Ministry (ISA FM 2564/22). From Benny Morris, "The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem 1947-49", p. 297.C "The only good Arab is a dead Arab." --Israeli General Rafael Eitan "We abroad are used to believing that Eretz Israel is now almost totally desolate, a desert that is not sowed, and that anyone who wishes to purchase land there may come and purchase as much as he desires. But in truth this is not the case. Throughout the country it is difficult to find fields that are not sowed. Only sand dunes and stony mountains that are not fir to grow anything but fruit trees-and this only after hard labor and great expense of clearing and reclaimation- only these are not cultivated." [the Zionists] treat the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, deprive them of their rights, offend them without cause, and even boast of these deeds. If this is the 'Messiah', then I do not wish to see his coming." --Asher Ginsberg (Ahad Ha=am) 1891 "Everybody has to move, run and grab as many hilltops as they can to enlarge the settlements because everything we take now will stay ours... Everything we don't grab will go to them." --Ariel Sharon, then Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998. "Between ourselves it must be clear that there is no room for both peoples together in this country. We shall not achieve our goal if the Arabs are in this small country. There is no other way than to transfer the Arabs from here to neighboring countries - all of them. Not one village, not one tribe should be left." -Joseph Weitz, head of the Jewish Agency's Colonization Department in 1940. From "A Solution to the Refugee Problem" by Joseph Weitz, Davar, September 29, 1967, cited in Uri Davis and Norton Mevinsky, eds., Documents from Israel, 1967-1973, p.21. "It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonization or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands." -Yoram Bar Porath, Yediot Aahronot, of 14 July 1972. "After we become a strong force as the result of the creation of the state, we shall abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine. The state will only be a stage in the realization of Zionism and its task is to prepare the ground for our expansion. The state will have to preserve order - not by preaching but with machine guns." -David Ben-Gurion, 1938. "There is, however, a difficulty from which the Zionist dares not avert his eyes, though he rarely likes to face it. Palestine proper has already its inhabitants." -Israel Zangwill, The Voice of Jerusalem, London, 1920, p. 88. "We must expel Arabs and take their places." -David Ben Gurion, future Prime Minister of Israel, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985. "Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population." -Moshe Dayan, address to the Technion, Haifa, reported in Haaretz, April 4, 1969 "Spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it employment... Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly." -Theodore Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization, speaking of the Arabs of Palestine, Complete Diaries, June 12, 1895 entry. "We should instruct American Jewry to mobilize half a billion dollars in order that Iraq and Saudi Arabia will absorb the Palestinian Arabs. There is no choice: the Arabs must make room for the Jews in Eretz Yisrael. If it was possible to transfer the Baltic Peoples it is also possible to move the Palestinian Arabs." -Vladimir Jabotinsky, founder of Revisionist Zionism (precursor of Likud), November 1939. "There are some who believe that the non-Jewish population, even in a high percentage, within our borders will be more effectively under our surveillance; and there are some who believe the contrary, i.e., that it is easier to carry out surveillance over the activities of a neighbor than over those of a tenant. [I] tend to support the latter view and have an additional argument:...the need to sustain the character of the state which will henceforth be Jewish...with a non-Jewish minority limited to 15 percent. I had already reached this fundamental position as early as 1940 [and] it is entered in my diary." --Joseph Weitz, head of the Jewish Agency's Colonization Department. From Israel: an Apartheid State by Uri Davis, p.5. "a piece of s**t posing as human beings" -Slate columnist Scott Shuger describing Palestinians Israel can act with impunity because we have the Anti-Defamation League and Yad Vashem and the Holocaust Museum." -Haaretz columnist Ari Shavit "Jews would have been less than human had they eschewed any notion of superiority altogether." "It is extraordinarily difficult for American Jews to expunge the sense of superiority altogether however much they may try to suppress it." -Charles Silberman, A Certain People An American Jewish child inherits no body of law, no body of learning and no language, and finally no lord but a kind of psychology: and that psychology can be translated in three words: 'Jews are better.' -Philip Roth After June of 1967 Israel became the religion of American Jews. - Norman Podhoretz, Breaking Ranks "If we are going to admit claims on conquest thousands of years ago, the whole world will have to be turned upside down." -Lord Sydenham, Hansard, House of Lords, 21 June 1922 "If this is Palestine and not the land of Israel, then you are conquerors and not tillers of the land. You are invaders. If this is Palestine then it belongs to a people who lived here before you came." -Israeli military fanatic Menachem Begin to Israelis ---------------------------------------- Anything forbidden to be questioned must be held suspect by thinking people, and the more that criticism is suppressed, the more dangerous the possibilities for the world, and not just the suppressors. -Frank Scott, “War of the Words” — Mordechai Vanunu

t e rr o r i s m has been invented.... for some benefit of a dozen of reach families NOT even for the politicians and pharisees Got it now ?! Get back now to where you are being FARMed for ! — rockerFellar

the comparing israel to the nazi genocide is tasteless at best. stick to ranting against hipsters and leave politics to haaretz, bbc, al jazeera and jerusalem post. — Anonymous

Written in my heart. I've gone near the sound of an open aspect waiting for a blackbird, and now, while the north wind appears with a delicate care, I follow the sun.... Francesco Sinibaldi — Francesco Sinibaldi

Thank you for allowing me to post my comments here. I am just as saddened by what happened in Warsaw as I am at what is happening in Gaza. There is one thing we must remember: "Hamas" does not equal "Palestinians". Hamas is an organization with some definite goals and which had a more recent starting place and time in history than the Palestinians. Hamas may be comprised of mostly Palestinians - or not - but they do not represent the greater number of those who are suffering both at their hand, and at the hand of munitions which miss their mark when fired from Israel. (Don't get me wrong...I understand that ALL munitions have SOME failures, and that there is also intentional or accidental misinformation which gets munitions targeted in the wrong places - which of course, was not what was intended.) And just as wrong, are the small number of Israelis who would wish to see Gaza ploughed under, when it is Hamas which is at the root of the problem. When one compares Hizballah with Hamas (search yourself for all the available definitions on the web!!!), one sees much the same thing, but starting in a different country. Israel (the nation as a whole) is not trying to remove Gaza from existence, but is stymied by the intertwined nature of Hamas existing and operating on the same plot of land as do thousands of every-day Palestinian "Joe-Citizens", as they might be called in other countries. However, it could more correctly be argued that Hamas _IS_ seeking to wipe out Israel as a nation. The Nazis arose from within the states of Austria and Germany (spear-headed by some very well known evil men) and were bound upon destroying the entire race of Juden/Jews/Israelis from the face of the planet. (At that exact time, there were no "official" national Israelis with a physical homeland, since many years, and yes, Israel is larger than simply the Jews.) HAMAS AND HIZBALLAH EXIST SOLELY TO ERADICATE THE JEWS/ISRAELIS, EVEN AT THE COST OF THE PALESTINIAN OR ARAB OR ISLAMIC BROTHERS. This is where the true parallel lies - and, just like the disagreement of where the universe originally came from, it is carefully hidden away from the usual public discussion. I pray that God will help us all. — Jevatt Uriam

U know what? Tough. Maybe, if they weren't LOBBING ROCKETS at Israel, there would be less of a problem. Stop trying to exterminate the Jews and they'll leave you alone. — Anonymous