It truly amazes me the amount of vitriol being spewed on this message board.

— Anonymous

I have one comment to make: http://www.unwatch.org/site/apps/nl/content2.asp?c=bdKKISNqEmG&b=1313923… But we will certanily NOT…take the statement out of the record, will we? — Anonymous

In his article, “Never Again”, Saeed David Mohammad, tries to establish a connection between the current situation in the Middle East and the mass extermination of millions of European Jews. The title “never again” has become a slogan for the prevention of future genocides following the “discovery” by the West of the mass murder of European Jewry. It should be noted that the public only became aware of the fate of European Jewry in the early 1960s. Before the trial in Jerusalem of Adolf Eichmann, one of the architects of the Final Solution, most of the world was oblivious to the fact that Jews had been targeted for extermination. Mr. Mohammad suggests that the Jewish population in the Warsaw ghetto “was allowed limited control through an essentially powerless governing committee and a similarly ineffective police force.” This may be true but does not tell the full story. Historians have disputed the role of the ghetto Jewish Council or “Judenrat.” Some view these governing bodies as being essential components in the German bureaucracy. By working under the control of the Nazis these governing bodies made it easier to round up Jews for deportation to the death camps. Others see these councils as elements within the community who were trying as best they could to save as many Jews as possible, by agreeing to some Nazi orders while trying to slow down the deportations, as the Germans relentlessly pushed forward with their goal of mass murder. Whatever the case, for the Nazis, the Judenrat became a tool for implementing Nazi orders in the Jewish ghetto. In Warsaw the Judenrat was ordered to supply lists of Jews who were to be sent to extermination camps. The orders issued in July 1942 called for the deportation of all Jews to the East at a rate of about 6000 per day. These people were to be rounded up by the Jewish police force. Adam Czerniaków, head of the Judenrat committed suicide on July 23rd 1942. He had pleaded with the German authorities that orphans be exempt from the deportation but was turned down. In a suicide note he wrote “They are demanding that I kill the children of my people with my own hands. There is nothing for me to do but die”. The writer states that “The citizens of Warsaw organized a resistance movement during the Soviet advance. Their valiant attempt to fight the occupation, however, was brutally defeated and the Warsaw ghetto was razed to the ground.” Not so. The Warsaw ghetto uprising began on April 19 1943 and was crushed about one month later on May 16. 7000 Jews were shot and about 50000 others were deported, many to death camps. At that time there was no Soviet advance as Russian troops were still battling the Germans inside the Soviet Union. The decisive Battle of Kursk, the last major offensive by the German army in the East, was fought in July and August 1943. There was an uprising in Warsaw in August 1944, but this was more than a year after the ghetto was destroyed. Mr. Mohammad also states that “Acts of rebellion within the ghetto were brutally suppressed and German retaliation was often strikingly disproportionate. In December 1939, for example, two German soldiers were killed in a local restaurant and 106 men in the ghetto were shot in reprisal.” I believe the author is referring to the Wawer Massacre, the shooting of Polish civilians following the deaths of the two Germans. There is no evidence that the shooting of those soldiers was an act of rebellion. Most of the dead, following the German reprisal, were non-Jews, although 11 Polish Jews were among the victims. Wawer, by the way, is near Warsaw not in the ghetto. There is now a monument in Wawer commemorating the mass shooting. I have no idea how much studying of the Holocaust Mr. Mohammad has done. I would assume that he looked at some articles on the Warsaw ghetto and included references to forge his link, equating Israelis with Nazis and the Palestinians with the doomed Jews of Poland. It would be helpful if he understood what was happening in Europe in the 1940s. It would also appear that Adbusters did not examine this article but accepted the work because the writer had views that fitted in well with Adbusters’ agenda. Both sides in the Middle East conflict have labeled their enemies as Nazis. But only the Nazis were Nazis. Only they used death camps replete with gas chambers and crematoria in a systematic effort to rid Europe of all its Jews, and ultimately, had they prevailed, the world of its Jews. Both Mr. Mohammed and Adbusters do a great disservice to the plight of the Palestinians. By placing the Holocaust and the Middle East conflict on the same footing, they not only demean the fate of European Jewry during those years but also cast doubt on the current ongoing tragedy. Mr. Mohammad states that “comparing any event with the actions of Nazi Germany during World War II should never be done lightly”. Too bad both he and Adbusters never followed that advice. M — Anonymous

I guess I just think it’s totally absurd that Zionism is a a legitimate argument for anything. God told them they could have this piece of land because they are chosen, and therefore they can control who lives in it and use violence to defend it? This whole notion of being a “chosen people” just seems sort supremacist in an of itself. Well, if I said that God told me to move into my neighbors house because I was chosen to live there, I doubt my neither my neighbor or the law would be too happy with me or give any credence to the reasoning behind it. I mean, people can believe what they want, but it is totally confusing how developed nation states that claim to eschew religion from policy could recognize the Jews claim to this land based on that reasoning. — Anonymous

Its funny, we can stop fighting in wars, as westerners and europians, but it is AGAINST the rules for true practicing muslims to not kill or convert everyone on the planet. There is quote after quote in the qu’ran, totally within context that encourages killing all those who are not islamic. So yes, we can stop fighting and killing, however the muslim world never will. I admit not all muslims are terroists, but most terroists are muslims. adbusters has become so anti-israeli and biased it hurts. And im sick of their fucking ADVERTISEMENTS for blackspot. — Anonymous

I wasn’t surprised to discover this biased, misrepresented article was written by a PALESTINIAN. There is no way to be OBJECTIVE when writing about your own people. Case closed. — Anonymous

The Israeli Govt. is recieving most of the contribution from the United States. Why they control the Palestinians is because the most “powerful” country contributes 1/3 of the United States “people’s” dollar. Every 3rd of your tax dollar goes to the Israelis…Why people allow this is because they are sterotyped to the Palestians. Watch the documentary “Occupassion 101” I recomend it if you have no clue on what goes on over there. — Anonymous

No one has been compared to the nazis more often than the state their survivors live in… weird, isn’t it? and when someone says this comparison might be quite inappropriate, he/she is denounced as a zionist or an idf agent… — Anonymous

Superiority Complex + Persecution Complex + Military Industrial Complex = Slow Gradualised Genocide & Land Theft. Palestinians are offered a choice of “Let us take your land and your life or we’ll shoot you”. Palestinian House Demolitions + Israeli Settler Colonies = Israeli Border Expansion http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2008/sep/11/israelandthepale… Define your borders and them live within them - you racist, lying, Zionist fucks ! So many of you are too pig-headed to imagine that you may have a hand in causing this conflict Thankfully the world is starting to catch on to your insidious PR bullshit (& fuck you for trying it on, frankly) and your utter disregard for wider groups. Your foreign policy and your despicable behavior turns my stomach. Your shitty little secret is out: that Israel is all about slow gradualised conquest. Assholes… — Anonymous

This article is biased as fuck. Of course Jews are shown as heartless monsters, because the author is the child of a pakistani immigrant. I wonder what kind of education they gave him at home, antisemitism 101? I’m not saying this could not be true, but, hey, you got to be skeptic with everything, right?. I have my doubts if this article was written with too much passion, and from almost none to zero partiality. — Anonymous

Err, there are just a few significant differences between Gaza and the Warsaw Ghetto. For one thing, those in the Ghetto were not permitted to leave. Those in Gaza can go anywhere in the world they want to as far as the Israeli government is concerned. It is Hamas that prevents many of them from leaving, and then, Egypt decidedly does not want them, never did, as we know. For another little itty bitty thing, those living in the Ghetto were kept there until they could be shippped out to death camps. And the final itty bitty teeniest tiniest thing, those administering the Warsaw Ghetto were innocents, not enemies of Poland or any other country, had, in fact, attacked no one, while Hamas has murdered countless Israelis AND Palestinians and has committed itself to the destruction of Israel. I mean, like, Duh. — Anonymous

Zionist trolls post on here to try to bring down Adbusters just like the Zionist elite in Canwest are trying to bring them down. Adbusters is the vanguard. Rock on Adbusters. Never Again! Keep the faith. Recycle “Israel” for peace… — Anonymous

its time for jihad on china. — Anonymous

china just killed more moslems in the past few minutes than israel has in years. — Anonymous