Dear Dov Yermiya

Dear Dov Yermiya

Dear Dov Yermiya,

I have received the distressing letter that you recently sent to a limited number of friends. You paint the Israeli reality in dark – but true – colors, and end by cutting your ties with it.

“Therefore I, a 95 year old Sabra (native born Israeli Jew), who has plowed its fields, planted trees, built a house and fathered sons, grandsons and great-grandsons, and also shed his blood in the battle for the founding of the State of Israel,

“Declare herewith that I renounce my belief in the Zionism which has failed, that I shall not be loyal to the Jewish fascist state and its mad visions, that I shall not sing anymore its nationalist anthem, that I shall stand at attention only on the days of mourning for those fallen on both sides in the wars, and that I look with a broken heart at an Israel that is committing suicide and at the three generations of offspring that I have bred and raised in it.”

Since I first met you, Dov, some fifty years ago, I have always considered you the salt of the earth. You were born in a village, the son of a farmer, were a fighter in the 1948 war and later a Colonel in the army, a modest man, a moral person in every fiber.

In the first Lebanon War, you exposed the atrocities committed against the Palestinian refugees in the Tyre-Sidon area, and your courageous report shocked me no less than those of the Sabra and Shatila massacre. You did not hesitate to break the silence, as the “Breaking the Silence” youngsters are doing now, knowing full well that your peers in the officers’ corps would excommunicate you.

You are a man of my heart, Dov. That is why your words distress me so much. I think it important to share the statement of a man of your caliber with those in our camp who spend sleepless nights worrying about the situation of our state.

You start your letter by mentioning the founders of the Zionist movement.

“If Herzl could come to life again and see what those who claim to carry the flag of Zionism are doing, he would flee at once, miserable and shocked, back to his grave. So would Chaim Weizmann and most of the pioneers, the fathers and mothers of my generation. They were people of conscience and morality, who held to the axiom that human beings are decent and honest.”

Most of your fierce accusations concern Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians. “And thus, for 42 years, Israel turned what should have been Palestine into a giant detention camp, and is holding a whole people captive under an oppressive and cruel regime, with the sole aim of taking away their country, come what may!!!

“The IDF eagerly suppresses their efforts at rebellion, with the active assistance of the settlement thugs, by the brutal means of a sophisticated Apartheid and a choking blockade, inhuman harassment of the sick and of women in labor, the destruction of their economy and the theft of their best land and water.

“Over all this there is waving the black flag of the frightening contempt for the life and blood of the Palestinians. Israel will never be forgiven for the terrible toll of blood spilt, and especially the blood of children, in hair-raising quantities.”

But I believe that the abysmal despair echoed in your words has other roots, too. It is a feeling that troubles the heart of many of your and my generation, the feeling that “they have stolen our state”, that there is no resemblance between the state which we dreamed of and fought for and the thing that has taken its place.

When I think of our youth, yours and mine, one scene is never far from my mind: the 1947 Dalia festival.

Tens of thousands of young men and women were sitting on the slope of a hill in the natural amphitheater near Kibbutz Dalia on Mount Carmel. Ostensibly it was a festival of folk dancing, but in reality it was much more – a great celebration of the new Hebrew culture which we were then creating in the country, in which folk dancing played an important role. The dancing groups came mainly from the kibbutzim and the youth movements, and the dances were original Hebrew creations, interwoven with Russian, Polish, Yemenite and Hassidic ones. A group of Arabs danced the Debka in ecstasy, dancing and dancing and dancing on.

In the middle of the event, the loudspeakers announced that members of the UN Commission of Inquiry, which had been sent by the international organization to decide upon the future of the country, were joining us. When we saw them entering the amphitheater, the tens of thousands spontaneously rose to their feet and started to sing the “Hatikva”, the national anthem, with a holy fervor that reverberated from the surrounding mountains.

We did not know then that within half a year the great Hebrew-Arab war would break out – our War of Independence and their Naqba. I believe that most of the 6000 young people who fell in the war on our side, as well as the thousands that were wounded – like you and me – were present at that moment in Dalia, seeing each other and singing together.

What state did we think of then? What state did we set out to create?

What has happened to the Hebrew society, the Hebrew culture, the Hebrew morality that we were so proud of then?

Yes, we did create a state. As the old song goes: “On the battlefield, a town is now standing”. We have brought millions of people to this country. From a Hebrew community of 650 thousand we have grown into a population of 7.5 million. A fourth and fifth generation speaks Hebrew as their mother tongue. Our economy is large and solid, even in these times of crisis. In several fields we are in the first rank of human endeavor.

But is this the society, is this the state, which we saw in our mind’s eye on the day it was set up? Is this the army that you and I swore allegiance to on the day it was founded?

Did we dream of this corrupt society, a society without compassion, where a handful of the very rich live off the fat of the land, with a large band of politicians and media people and other lackeys groveling in the dust at their feet?

Did we dream of a state that is an isolated and shunned ghetto in the region, lording it over an oppressed Palestinian ghetto-within-a-ghetto? There were days when we could stand up anywhere in the world and proudly declare “I am an Israeli.” No one can do that now. The name of Israel has become mud. Since the Gaza War, in which our army poured molten lead onto men, women and children, many Israelis avoid speaking Hebrew in the streets of foreign cities and the IDF has ordered the faces of some of its officers – those whose rank equals yours – be obscured in pictures published in the media.

Why did this happen? When did this happen?

My aim is not to start a discussion with you about the fundamentals of Zionism, both positive and negative. We might not agree. Nor shall I enter into the question of whether everything really started in 1967, with the intoxicating and corruptive victory, or whether the seeds of disaster were sown earlier. On one thing I agree with you entirely: that the fatal step was taken then, on the morrow of that war, when we had the choice between the shining gold of peace and the base metal of annexation, and stretched our hands out towards the latter.

My personal conscience is clean. I am proud that I was one of the few in the country, and the sole voice in the Knesset, who proposed even during the war to turn over the occupied territories to the Palestinian people, so as to enable them to set up their state. This unique opportunity was missed, as you point out in your letter, because of the greed of the founders of the settlement movement, the champions of a Greater Israel.

From there things rolled on, as in a Greek tragedy, to where we are now, with an assorted crew of settlers, racists, nationalists, messianic zealots and ordinary fascists in charge of the state, turning the Knesset into a circus, undermining the Supreme Court, perverting the army, imposing obscurantist religious laws, handing the public treasury to unbridled tycoons, polluting the education system with a primitive nationalist indoctrination, persecuting poor asylum seekers, oppressing the national minority and planning military attacks that will wreak death and destruction on civilian populations.

This is the state that you detest. I have no quarrel with you about that.

This is the state that you despair of. About that I do have a dispute with you.

You bear the name of the prophet who is nearest to my heart, Yirmiyahu, the prophet of anger who called out: “Woe is me, my mother, that thou hast borne me a man of strife and a man of contention to the whole world … every one doth curse me!” (Jer. 15:10)

But Jeremiah was not only an accuser, he was also a healer: “to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down – to build and to plant.” (Jer. 1:10)

You, Dov, have invested in this state much too much to turn your back on it in a gesture of anger and despair. The most hackneyed and worn-out slogan in Israel is also true: “We don’t have another state!”

Other states in the world have sunk to the depths of depravity and committed unspeakable crimes, far beyond our worst sins, and still brought themselves back to the family of nations and redeemed their souls.

We and all the members of our generation, who were among those who created this state, bear a heavy responsibility for it. A responsibility to our offspring, to those oppressed by this state, to the entire world. From this responsibility we cannot escape.

Even at your respectable age, and precisely because of it and because of what you represent, you must be a compass for the young and tell them: This state belongs to you, you can change it, don’t allow the nationalist wreckers to steal it from you!

True, 61 years ago we had another state in mind. Now, after our state has tumbled to where it is today, we must remember that other state, and remind everybody, every day, what the state should have been like, what it can be like, and not allow our vision to disappear like a dream. Let’s lend our shoulders to every effort to repair and heal!

You have voiced the message of Jeremiah, the prophet of anger. I beg you, give voice also to Jeremiah, the prophet of hope!

Uri Avnery

This article first appeared on Open Democracy: Free Thinking for the World, www.opendemocracy.net.

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September
24, 2009
08:49 am
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I can't get over the amount of Hate within this culture jamming group. Should Adbuster.org's desire for a new world order come to light are these the sort of people who will run it? Am I to be thrilled about this UTOPIA? I truly am surprised here that out of 86,000 registrants to this site, only 3 maybe 4 people have summoned the energy to pound away at their keys to challenge this poison. It is truly a blow for humanity if this is representative of the rest of you out there. If I could ask one thing, I would like another editor to weigh in on this thread, give us there opinion.

September
25, 2009
07:08 pm
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Yes, the amount of hate emanating from you is cause for concern. Unfortunately for you and your other self, the editors at Adbusters do not cower before the Lobby, and so will not censor opinions to suit your anti-Muslim agenda.

September
21, 2009
10:19 am
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Given the bigotry of his (nudge! nudge!) attitude, no amount of rebuttal would be of any use. He (nudge! nudge!) is a militant Christian with an ignorant, selective mentality. He can cite passages from the Qur'an all he wants, I could cite passages from Judaism and Christianity, but that would not mean that all Jews and Christians are psychopaths.

The non-Saudi Islamic culture of the Middle Ages and early Renaissance was one of the the most enlightened in the history of mankind, and that enlightenment is being destroyed by zionist thugs.

Dov Yermiya, a good Jew, is correct to condemn Israel.
I suggest you quit feigning intelligence and get a real education.

September
21, 2009
12:30 pm
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Once again no rebuttle worth a dime. Challenge the citations, offer some of your own. Why not point out some of those passages rather than telling us you could. Thats just plain lazy.

What is it around here with people avoiding debate and instead claiming their opponent to be a thug or insane, or worse....a jew? Lets see what you got, at least Greg Felton attempts to argue.

It a shame Islam has given the world nothing since their middle ages "enlightenment" oh well, the rest of the world (mainly the west) has picked up that torch. Check out any of those countries and find western techonology. Hey even the missiles they intend to destroy everyone else with are borrowed science :).

If this site is truly supposed to be the journal of the mental environment what would people think of this environment shoudl they pick up the comments you guys have made in say 10 years. Something tells me all would be lost if this sort of lazy debate was the benchmark.

September
24, 2009
06:41 am
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Poor Chez,
All bent out of shape cause his position is so last century; so ridiculously outdated.
Hey Chezzy even in vastly undereducated America no one is buying this preposterous argument anymore.
Israel is finished guy. Colonialism is dead. You might be able to sell your racist shit in some backwater, zionist redneck neighborhood of Brooklyn but really bud the gig is up everywhere else. Even a staunch Zionist like Goldstone is signaling the end.
Thanks to people like Adbusters even the kids in "Israel" are defecting. Party's over fella, "if you'll all just grab your stuff and go home there wont be any hassle..."
It really is true what they say about "Israel" being the litmus test for intellectual credibility. If you still lie about the crime that is "Israel" you're obsolete.
This is precisely why bozos like Dershowitz and you have been relegated to clowns. Sad little clowns in a tired little circus.
Buh-bye.

September
24, 2009
08:30 am
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Still nothing...the aggravation you guys shows just demonstrates your weakness. You cannot meet people with reasoned debate, only self proclaimed victories and defeats. You speak with emotions, McAnonymous and I speak with reason. Your fooling no one my friend and neither is our backwards religion. You will live your life out in a bubble of ignorant hate. I would not wish that apon you or my worst enemy.

September
24, 2009
09:53 pm
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That's it--keep sucking on your Jesus pacifier. Neither you nor your other self has managed to say one credible thing about Islamic culture, and your delusions about your own adequacy are simply laughable. Kazaria and I have nailed you to the wall and you insist it doesn't hurt. Such a good Christian!

The sheer hatred you display toward Muslims is truly disturbing, but then, like all Bible-believing true believers, you ARE disturbed. Remember: Only Jews and Christians REALLY know how to hate.

September
25, 2009
07:53 am
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What have you taught anyone, lay your arguments down. This is like your 10th post with no point. Again your claiming victory, and displaying your frustration with yourself.

By the way, half the G20 general assembly members walked out on Iran, Canada being one of the first. Like you ahmadinejad is a holocaust denier and a jew hater. Like me half the representetives agree that this stance is wrong, offensive, and not worth listening to.

September
25, 2009
11:35 am
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Offensive and not worth listening to.... Pretty much describes you, doesn't it?

I have made my point repeatedly, but you seem to have a cognitive impairment.
You misrepresent Muslims; fail to acknowledge the perversity of Christinanity, and lie about other people. Ahmadinejad did not deny the holocaust. That is standard zionist disinformation. The only "holocaust deniers" are Jews and Christians who deny the zionist holocaust against Palestine.

Time to get a new pacifier. The one you have isn't working.

September
27, 2009
11:25 am
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Like talking to a brick or a stone, you are incapable of hearing something that is basic fact - even if its from your own religion. Neither Chez nor I have misrepresented anything - in fact any reference on Islam has only been from authentic Islamic teachings (Koran and Hadiths - exclusively). Thus, if the Koran truly is the literal word of God - how can it be misrepresented if directly quoted? We are making ideologically and historically accurate points and you disagree with them - so there are only two outcomes from this. Either you are lying or the Koran and Hadith are fabrications. Which is it? Do you think you can answer that one, simple question?

September
28, 2009
02:46 am
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Gee, doofus!

Is the Bible the literal word of God?
No.
Does the Bible dictate the behaviour of EVERY Christian?
No.
Is the Torah the literal word of God?
No.
Is the Qur'an (note proper spelling) the true word of God?
No.

None of this has ANYTHING to do with your deliberate smearing of Muslims and Muslim culture. Neither you nor your alter-ego has made ANY historically relevant point. You can't. You keep spinning your wheel of hate in hopes it will go somewhere.

Religion is not relevant to Jewish fascism and the persecution of Arabs, which is the reason for Dov Yermiya's rejection of zionism.

You are not intellectually qualified to debate adult topics. Get a bigger pacifier..

September
28, 2009
10:48 pm
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OUCH. Don't let any of your fellow Muslims hear you say that. "The law" sanctions the death of anyone who even insults Islam - let alone admits that the Koran isn't the literal word of God (just made up by Mohammed then was it?). So at least now you have admitted that Islam is a faulty religion and you are the actual authority on the subject. Thank you for finally answering one question.
We're really starting to get somewhere.
By the way you seem really obsessed with pacifiers. Have you talked to a therapist about that?

September
29, 2009
10:04 am
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Stop trying to pretend you're sane.
I did NOT say Islam was faulty. All religion is subjective, especially Christinanity which is so intellectually lame it had to be manufactured by the Roman Empire and sociopaths like Athanasius and Augustine. At least Islam has the distinct virtue of not deifying Mohammed.

Your hatred for Muslims and inability to argue intelligently means YOU are the one with the psychiatric disorder.

I am getting tired of teaching you basic manners and logic. I suggest you smarten up real fast!

September
29, 2009
11:07 pm
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Ahh, this is great. ...and predictable. Showing your colours with veiled threats, and yet still no facts. What are you going to do if I don't "smarten up??"
Actually you DID say Islam was faulty - you said the Koran is not the true word of God. I know revisionist history comes naturally to you, but that was, like, 24 hours ago!!
I don't hate Muslims at all. I hate a philosophy that is anathema to peace and love which deceives its followers into blowing themselves up (and taking out more Muslims than any other group, by the way) for the glory of the "religion of peace." You don't hate that?

October
01, 2009
12:57 am
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You know nothing of Islamic philosophy. Just how to pick quotes that suit your bigotry. Yes you DO hate Muslims, but you are too stupid to acknowledge it. I did NOT say Islam was faulty. I said it was subjective, like Christinanity and Judaism.

If you're so keen on honesty and accuracy, why don't you cherry pick them, too? I suppose it slipped your attention that the greatest mass murders in history were done in the name of Jesus and Jehovah.

You're typically untutored crack about Muslims blowing themselves up disqualifies you as an intelligent being. Jews started the practice of sacrifice bombings in WWII. Muslims are driven to desperation because of zionist sadism. Islam says NOTHING about it. Gad, you're stupid.

Islam is a religion of peace, but you can't expect peaceful people to accept genocide willingly, now do you. Of course you do. You're a Christian!

Here's a column I just came across. It discusses people like you:

http://www.gregfelton.com/media/2009_09_30.htm

October
03, 2009
03:24 am
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So you sit in judgement of Islam and say that it's not what it claims to be. The whole philosophy is a house of cards that only stands if you believe blindly that the Koran is the infallible, incarnate word of God. The fact that you say the Koran is subjective is heresy if not apostasy - which means you are at odds with your entire religious scholars, traditions and sacred texts.
You lie about Islam being peaceful. If you know anything about the religion you would know that the blood-soaked commands of the 9th chapter abrogate all former peaceful verses.
Your inability to carry an actual argument is only underlined by your referencing Felton the crackpot. Where is your encyclopedic knowledge of the Koran and Hadith? Surely you can cite ONE reference from Islamic sources to really drive your points home?? No? Nothing? Awww.

October
01, 2009
12:55 pm
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You had the whole internet to look for columns and all you could find is an article by that lunatic......weak, very weak.

October
01, 2009
12:59 pm
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Just realized, you clearly are Greg Felton. There is only one person who checks his site out and that is himself. lame.

October
02, 2009
03:40 am
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Oh, and how would you know.
Speaking of lame, you are it, McAnonymous!!

October
02, 2009
12:35 pm
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You're fooling no one Greggy!

October
03, 2009
04:35 pm
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I read Greg Felton's column.

He talks about "hasbarats," active liars for Israel supported by the Israeli propaganda department.

How much are YOU getting paid to lie? Does you alter-ego McAnonymous get his own cheque?

How about those blood-thirsty Christians and psycho-Jews, eh? No commennt?

October
03, 2009
06:21 pm
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We keep asking for facts and references and all you come up with are conspiracy theories. My time is too valuable to continue this thrashing. You've proven yourself delusional and obtuse. Thanks for the laughs.

October
04, 2009
10:03 pm
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Your post implies Greg Felton gets paid to lie......pathetic, even your accusations are illogical. Whether you would like to group McAnonymous and I i dont really care, answer one of us and I would be happy.

October
04, 2009
10:53 pm
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No, it doesn't. If you read Greg Felton's articles--assuming you can read--you'd realize he cites all his sources and defends all his arguments.

You and your alter-ego clearly come under the category of "hasbarats," a term that Mr. Felton deserves praise for coining. According to him, you are a liar for Israel and a intellectual saboteur. You fear reason because you have nothing positive or intelligent to say.

Neither Mr. Felton nor I could possibly answer you because you have no substance and are not interested in debate. I recognize you as a hasbarat and therefore will let you stew in you own bigotry. You, both of you, are wastes of time.

Consider youselves exposed and defeated.

October
05, 2009
08:48 am
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Greg it's kind of creepy to talk in third person like that.

September
22, 2009
03:51 pm
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Give it up, McAnonymous. You're fooling nobody. My point is that you fail to draw a connection between your cherry-picked quotes from the Qur'an and the practice of Islam.You fail to judge all religions equally.

You're a bigot and not worth my time.

September
22, 2009
11:34 pm
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That's the point - I'm fooling nobody. 30+ quotes from the Koran (I could give hundreds) is not cherry picking, it is revealing the context of violence inherent in it's teachings. I have painstakingly made these connections via deductive reasoning with original quotes to back up the points. That's how arguments work.
The other point is, OF COURSE I don't judge all religions equally because they aren't equal. Not even close. Just ask any women or homosexuals you know - see what they think about the "religion of peace." Ask a missionary from any other religion who is preaching in an Islamic state. You know what? Practitioners of all other religions aren't taught to hate, alienate or kill people of other faiths. Islam is the only one - that's why it's a backward, empty, soulless religion that will eventually fail.

September
23, 2009
12:32 am
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Thanks for admitting your prejudice and incapacity for learning.

"Practitioners of all other religions aren't taught to hate, alienate or kill people of other faiths. Islam is the only one."

This is a lie on two counts.

1) JEWS are taught to hate. Muslims are taught tolerance.
2) CHRISTIANS started crusades for the sole purposes of massacring Muslims.

Your stupidity and ignorance, of which you seem perversely proud, reduce you to a pathetic mockery of a human being.

I rest my case. Your slander of Muslims is exposed.

September
23, 2009
11:27 pm
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Using intelligence to weigh different philosphies isn't prejudice - it's the OPPOSITE of prejudice - it's called judgement and wisdom.
Sometimes I don't know where to start with you - but I won't give up on you just yet.
1) has been dealt with ad nauseum so I won't deal with it here for obvious reasons (not the least of which that history and the respective religions disagree with you).
2) so you're actually asking people to believe that scores of Christians left behind their families, travelled half way around the world and sacrificed their lives and livelihoods to massacre Muslims? Sounds great to me! There couldn't possibly have been a higher purpose - like emancipating the legions of Christians that were enslaved my Muslim warlords.
What a strange world you must live in. Tell me one thing. How can one slander a Muslim by simply repeating the basic tenets of the religion?
...and believe you me, you're case will never rest.

September
24, 2009
03:57 am
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Enslaved?
Muslim warlords?
Where did you get your education?

Muslims ruled Palestine and the Middle East in peace until psycho Christians went ape-shit at the pope's request and started massacring them. The Crusades were prime examples of the violence and bigotry that drives Christians to kill Muslims for the sole reason that they do not buy into the absurdity that Jesus was God. Salladin, a Kurdish hero, was an honourable and compassionate leader. Richard I, King of England, was a sadistic, psychopathic homosexual who slaughtered thousands of Muslims in cold blood yet our mythology lionizes him.

You know so little of history that I doubt very much that you can understand basic facts. Small-minded Christians have vilified and demonized Muslims for centuries. You belong to a great tradition.

By the way, I demolished your last libel against Islam. Hope you noticed.
Now, go find your happy place.

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